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Easier way of moving files between same server directories (7 posts)
- Started 14 years ago by nonegiven
- Latest reply 14 years ago from Jim Matthews
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nonegiven Member
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Scott McGuire Administrator
Hi,
Thanks for the feedback. We agree that it would be good to have those features in Fetch, and we do hope to add them to Fetch in the future. Your suggestion about comparing two files is a good one, too, we have added that to our requested features database.
WHY ... cant I multi-task, e.g. working on one server whilst downloading files from another in the background at the same time?
The current version of Fetch will let you do this. You can definitely download from one server while working on another server in another window. It is true that you cannot download from a server and then work on the same server in the same window (you have to use the Clone Window command and get a second window to the server), but you should definitely be able to work on or download from two different servers (which there will be two different windows for automatically, one for each server) at the same time.
Thanks,
Scott McGuire
Fetch Softworks -
nonegiven Member
> The current version of Fetch will let you do this.
That comment really referred to the issue I raised first in the other topic about downloading a load of file to edit in BBEdit and Fetch having it jump back at the front/active application. (BBEdit on its own DOES work in the background).
But it also refers to working in a single window and NOT having to keep opening a load of new ones only then to lose where you are. Honestly, I do not see why, once you have instructed it what to do, the interface should be stuck doing it until it is finished, e.g. once I have instructed it to do something ... WHY cant I start navigating to some other directory where I want to work? Its logical and efficient and typical of a "power user".
Perhaps this relates to other comments others made about have a progress bar rather than gumming up the GUI visually "doing something".
This idea of have a single multi-paned window. I started thinking about just having two pane, e.g. remote and local ... but then I realised that not only am I no longer working in OS 7 ... I am no longer working at 800 x 600 either. Most Macs these days could even have as many as 4 pairs, or 8 navigable panes, at the resolutions they run at.
Its just strikes me the app is still stuck in that timeframe. You could have a "Simple" interface setting for new users that looks as it does ... but, really, I feel that "power users" - who are more likely to actually buy Fetch after all - are being crippled to some degree.
What do other "pro" webdesigners do? Its a pain having loads of "open document" small icons in the dock because they make everything else so small too and you can visibly see which server is which or navigate between them by keystrokes or without using your mouse. Again, if I could only have one window and navigate between different servers in the way that Finder, Spaces or the Application Switcher does, it would help.
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nonegiven Member
There is also no way to cycle between opened Fetch windows either .. is there?
I know Command-] etc but that does not do it. What about using Command-left and right arrow? You have it for Preference panes (Command-shift-] etc) but not working directories? Which are we likely to use the most?
Do you get, without taking any personal offence, where I am coming from? You seem to suggest in a blog (re your website) that you are coder not a web designer ... how do YOU use Fetch versus how do webdesigners use Fetch, e.g. one file at a time to one server at a time? Who is your intended market/audience?
Simple stuff like a customizable, brushed metal Finder-like sidebar navigation, the choice of a list view versus a column view would seriously increase my ease and efficiency. Presumably you could use Coverflow and other built in features of Mac OS?
Should Fetch not look and feel like OS X? We have moved on a bit since "MultiFinder" ... I could knock you up a dummy of what it should like in Photoshop if there was any will to change.
Thanks.
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Scott McGuire Administrator
Hi,
You can cycle through Fetch's windows using the standard Mac OS X keyboard shortcut for cycling through windows - Command-tilde (~) and Command-Shift-tilde (~). Those are the same keyboard shortcuts used for cycling windows in every Mac application. Does that not work for you?
Fetch has a wide and varied userbase, ranging from very non-technical users who are uploading a small personal website, to professional photographers and graphic designers, to professional webdesigners. Our goal is to keep Fetch's interface simple enough for the non-technical users, but also powerful enough for the professionals, and to be reliable for everyone.
We do appreciate hearing from all our users about how they use Fetch, and what they would like it to do, and we do make notes about the requests and consider all of them when making improvements, but it can be difficult to make it perfect for every user.
We do understand where you are coming from, and as I said, we would like to, and plan to, implement some of the features you have suggested. I am sorry that we do not have them yet for you. Honestly, we do not agree with you that Fetch is completely un-Mac OS X like in behavior and appearance, but we also concede that it does not have all of the latest bells and whistles.
Thanks,
Scott McGuire
Fetch Softworks -
Allan Clyde Member
no opportunity to requesst a trial doinload war fourn.
I jummped all the hoops
help
thx,
Allan -
Jim Matthews Administrator
Hi Allan,
You can download a trial copy of Fetch 5.5.3 by clicking this link: Fetch_5.5.3.dmg.
Thanks,
Jim Matthews
Fetch Softworks
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If I want to move a file from one directory to another directory, perhaps another directory a few level deep, the only way it appears possible to do so is to clone the window, navigate to the directory and then click and drag between multiple open windows.
If I am working on a number of websites at the same time, this leads to have multiple and essentially unsortable open windows ... in short, a very messy, cluttered and congested Desktop environment.
Ditto, if I want to work between directories on my Mac, I am left again with even more Finder windows open ...
Fetch is Fetch. It is the Mac default FTP application and, unlike other newcomers, is almost faultlessly reliable.
BUT ... I am sorry to say ... does it not suffer a little as an anachronism of older, more innocent single file transfer days? Do you still work with a Mac that uses floppies to transfer data!?!
WHY ... for example ... does it not integrate into the look of the modern FInder window navigation, e.g. with a customizable 'favorites' sidebar, a choice between list or column views?
WHY ... does it not have a simple way of moving files between directories, e.g. a multi-pane view ... a single window with 2, 4 ... 6 panes for different directory or server view?
WHY ... cant I multi-task, e.g. working on one server whilst downloading files from another in the background at the same time?
You know, I want to work with and love Fetch. On a bad day, I spend more time staring at it than I do the local hotties. I live and work with it daily. I know it is reliable ... but why I am left feeling that it is still a little bit stuck in the days of sneaker nets and badly needs to grow up and develop into a System 10 app from the System 7 app its interface appears to be stuck in?
Yup, and the floppy disk in the icon has to go too ... you have young designers now who have never seen one of those things never mind worked with them in their lives. What do you think they see or it says!?!
Please consider this a passionate but compassionate kick up the ass to move things forward. Honestly, and sadly, if Fetch does not grow I will have to move on to something else eventually.
It would be nice to have a single click "compare two files" option as well. I wish you and the BBedit guys would work more closely together or merge the apps.
Posted 14 years ago #