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  • Started 21 years ago by stevegerman
  • Latest reply 21 years ago from stevegerman
  • stevegerman Member

    The Dreamweaver pages I uploaded with Fetch won't display quotation marks (single or double) correctly in either Netscape or Explorer. The pages uploaded with Dreamweaver look fine. Is there something I'm doing wrong?

    Thanks, Steve

    Posted 21 years ago #

  • Jim Matthews Administrator

    Fetch won't change the quotation marks as it uploads, but maybe Dreamweaver does? You could open the file in question in a text editor to see what the quotation marks look like on the disk, and compare that to what they are on the server using Fetch's View Text File command. I believe that quotation marks in HTML files are supposed to be represented as HTML entities (e.g. ampersand followed by quot;).

    Thanks,

    Jim Matthews
    Fetch Softworks

    [This message has been edited by JimMatthews (edited 01-10-2003).]

    Posted 21 years ago #

  • stevegerman Member

    The Dreamweaver code window shows the quotes as regular quotes, but the Fetch View Text File window shows them as they look on the browsers. Quote marks and apostrophes are showing up as i's with accent marks or little cones over them. For some reason, one of the pages came out correctly. Here's an address for one of the problem pages:

    http://www.diocese-sacramento.org/herald/current-issue/article2.htm

    Look at the 5th paragraph in the story. Thanks again for any help.

    -Steve

    Posted 21 years ago #

  • Jim Matthews Administrator

    Those look like "curly quotes", also called typographer's quotes. You should try re-typing them with regular straight quotes, and then try uploading. Does that help?

    Thanks,

    Jim Matthews
    Fetch Softworks

    Posted 21 years ago #

  • stevegerman Member

    Yes, this works, at least insofar as the page now displays straight quotes instead of curly quotes, or the wrong marks. However, I'll be needing to upload way too many articles to be re-typing them manually, and a find-replace in Dreamweaver doesn't reveal any quotes as existing in the text. Are curly quotes incompatible with Fetch?

    The articles start out as newspaper stories in Quark (which is where the curly quotes come from) and are saved in Quark using the save text (as HTML) command. Then I open them up in Dreamweaver and paste into the Dreamweaver layouts. Do you see any workarounds here? Going back to the original word files is not an option, as the stories receive final editing in the Quark document. I like using Fetch to upload the pages, but not if it means a lot of extra work to reconfigure the quotes. Besides, I prefer the way the curly quotes look on the web pages.

    Thanks, Steve

    Posted 21 years ago #

  • Jim Matthews Administrator

    Are curly quotes incompatible with Fetch?

    The problem doesn't have anything to do with Fetch -- Fetch is just uploading what you give it.

    Have you tried searching for the curly quotes in Dreamweaver? To type a curly open-quote, type option-[. To type a curly close-quote type option-shift-[.

    I'm surprised that Dreamweaver isn't smart enough to do the translation for you.

    I prefer the way the curly quotes look on the web pages.

    I don't know if there is a way to make curly quotes appear correctly on web pages that will be viewed by browsers on multiple platforms (e.g. Mac and Windows).

    Jim Matthews
    Fetch Softworks

    Posted 21 years ago #

  • stevegerman Member

    Jim, once again, thanks for the help.. I guess Dreamweaver must have its own way of uploading special characters. I did a find-and-replace in Dreamweaver, using the opt-[ commands and it inserted the correct tag in the code. Now to figure out how to automate the process.

    -Steve

    Posted 21 years ago #

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