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Updating Web Site (12 posts)

• Started 16 years ago by mred
• Latest reply 16 years ago from Scott McGuire

• mred Member

  Can anyone help? I am trying to change the look of my web site with iweb. My old site is not iweb and I am not sure what to do with all of the old info, folders,etc. and howe to get the new pages posted. A folder that I have named shows up in Fetch but all the old stuff is still on the site. The old site info is probably not in iweb as it is done by a professional service that hosts me. They have given me the okay to make changes but are not going out of their way to help. Any ideas would be appreciated. I am new to fetch, ftp and web design.

  Posted 16 years ago #

• Scott McGuire Administrator

  Hi,

  So, you are trying to completely replace your old website with the new one you created in iWeb, or are you trying to create new parts of your website and integrate them with the old one?

  Thanks,

  Scott McGuire
  Fetch Softworks

  Posted 16 years ago #

• mred Member

  Hi Scott, Yes I am trying to replace hickorylanearabians.com with new material and I have successfully been able to replace old pages with new but my whol page does not show up when I change it. For instance, I tooke the old sales page which was not as long and replaced it with a new sales page. The new list shows up without the background and/ all of the sale photos. Most of the text is there. I really don't know what I am doing but have managed to get this far. Any help would be appreciated!

  Originally posted by ScottMcGuire:

  Hi,

  So, you are trying to completely replace your old website with the new one you created in iWeb, or are you trying to create new parts of your website and integrate them with the old one?

  Thanks,

  Scott McGuire
  Fetch Softworks

  Posted 16 years ago #

• mred Member

  Hi Again Scott,
  Just to make things more clear, I replaced old html pages in the old html areas. I also tried just adding ne html areas but it still does not download the whole page wtih the background, ertc..

  Originally posted by mred:

  Hi Scott, Yes I am trying to replace hickorylanearabians.com with new material and I have successfully been able to replace old pages with new but my whol page does not show up when I change it. For instance, I tooke the old sales page which was not as long and replaced it with a new sales page. The new list shows up without the background and/ all of the sale photos. Most of the text is there. I really don't know what I am doing but have managed to get this far. Any help would be appreciated!

  Posted 16 years ago #

• mred Member

  Actually it did work on my home page but not the other 3.

  Originally posted by mred:

  Hi Again Scott,
  Just to make things more clear, I replaced old html pages in the old html areas. I also tried just adding ne html areas but it still does not download the whole page wtih the background, ertc..

  Posted 16 years ago #

• Scott McGuire Administrator

  Hi,

  For websites created in iWeb to work properly, you must upload the files that iWeb creates exactly in the way iWeb organizes them when you use the "Publish to Folder" command. You cannot rearrange, move, or rename the files created by iWeb, or you will see broken links and missing images.

  I suspect, when you attempted to replace the old html pages in the old html areas, this caused the site to get broken, because your webpages are no longer arranged in the way iWeb arranged them. (iWeb is inflexible about that.)

  In general, for your iWeb website to work correctly once you upload it, after you publish your website to a folder, you need to upload the contents of the folder - but not the folder itself - to your server.

  For example, let's assume your website is called "Family Trip", and when you use "Publish to a Folder," you tell iWeb to put its files in a folder called "My New Website."

  Once iWeb is done, in the Finder you will see something like:

  My New Website (folder)
    index.html
    Family Trip (folder)

  Inside the "Family Trip" folder will be folders and files corresponding to each page of your website.

  For your website to work correctly, you must be sure to upload both that index file, and the website folder - that is, upload the entire contents of the "My New Website" folder, but don't upload the "My New Website" folder itself.

  And don't move pages out of the folders that iWeb put them in.

  It may be best to delete the files that you've already uploaded to the server and start fresh before trying again. (Although you should consider making a backup of your old website files, although if you've already attempted to replace pages of it on the server, it may be too late for that.)

  We have a help topic on using Fetch to upload websites created with iWeb (click the link to read it) - it has tips and covers a lot of possible problems that you might be running into, and it may be helpful to read it over if you haven't already.

  If you're still having problems after looking this over, please let us know.

  Thanks,

  Scott McGuire
  Fetch Softworks

  Posted 16 years ago #

• mred Member

  I understand most all that you are saying but I am not sure that I completely understand exactly what steps to take or not to take to get the below statement accomplished-"For your website to work correctly, you must be sure to upload both that index file, and the website folder - that is, upload the entire contents of the "My New Website" folder, but don't upload the "My New Website" folder itself." I will give it a go and let you know how it ends up. Thanks for the help. ED

  Originally posted by ScottMcGuire:

  Hi,

  For websites created in iWeb to work properly, you must upload the files that iWeb creates exactly in the way iWeb organizes them when you use the "Publish to Folder" command. You cannot rearrange, move, or rename the files created by iWeb, or you will see broken links and missing images.

  I suspect, when you attempted to replace the old html pages in the old html areas, this caused the site to get broken, because your webpages are no longer arranged in the way iWeb arranged them. (iWeb is inflexible about that.)

  In general, for your iWeb website to work correctly once you upload it, after you publish your website to a folder, you need to upload the contents of the folder - but not the folder itself - to your server.

  For example, let's assume your website is called "Family Trip", and when you use "Publish to a Folder," you tell iWeb to put its files in a folder called "My New Website."

  Once iWeb is done, in the Finder you will see something like:

  My New Website (folder)
    index.html
    Family Trip (folder)

  Inside the "Family Trip" folder will be folders and files corresponding to each page of your website.

  For your website to work correctly, you must be sure to upload both that index file, and the website folder - that is, upload the entire contents of the "My New Website" folder, but don't upload the "My New Website" folder itself.

  And don't move pages out of the folders that iWeb put them in.

  It may be best to delete the files that you've already uploaded to the server and start fresh before trying again. (Although you should consider making a backup of your old website files, although if you've already attempted to replace pages of it on the server, it may be too late for that.)

  We have a help topic on using Fetch to upload websites created with iWeb (click the link to read it) - it has tips and covers a lot of possible problems that you might be running into, and it may be helpful to read it over if you haven't already.

  If you're still having problems after looking this over, please let us know.

  Thanks,

  Scott McGuire
  Fetch Softworks

  Posted 16 years ago #

• mred Member

  What does Fetch do with deleted files? I do not see them in my trash? While I can get on line at hickorylanearabians.com/html, I can't get on our site at hickorylanearabians.com. I was trying to get us on line through arabhorse.com and I may have inadvertantly deleted a file that I should have not.

  Originally posted by ScottMcGuire:

  Hi,

  For websites created in iWeb to work properly, you must upload the files that iWeb creates exactly in the way iWeb organizes them when you use the "Publish to Folder" command. You cannot rearrange, move, or rename the files created by iWeb, or you will see broken links and missing images.

  I suspect, when you attempted to replace the old html pages in the old html areas, this caused the site to get broken, because your webpages are no longer arranged in the way iWeb arranged them. (iWeb is inflexible about that.)

  In general, for your iWeb website to work correctly once you upload it, after you publish your website to a folder, you need to upload the contents of the folder - but not the folder itself - to your server.

  For example, let's assume your website is called "Family Trip", and when you use "Publish to a Folder," you tell iWeb to put its files in a folder called "My New Website."

  Once iWeb is done, in the Finder you will see something like:

  My New Website (folder)
    index.html
    Family Trip (folder)

  Inside the "Family Trip" folder will be folders and files corresponding to each page of your website.

  For your website to work correctly, you must be sure to upload both that index file, and the website folder - that is, upload the entire contents of the "My New Website" folder, but don't upload the "My New Website" folder itself.

  And don't move pages out of the folders that iWeb put them in.

  It may be best to delete the files that you've already uploaded to the server and start fresh before trying again. (Although you should consider making a backup of your old website files, although if you've already attempted to replace pages of it on the server, it may be too late for that.)

  We have a help topic on using Fetch to upload websites created with iWeb (click the link to read it) - it has tips and covers a lot of possible problems that you might be running into, and it may be helpful to read it over if you haven't already.

  If you're still having problems after looking this over, please let us know.

  Thanks,

  Scott McGuire
  Fetch Softworks

  Posted 16 years ago #

• mred Member

  Why would my web site named www.hickorylanearabians.com now be www.hickorylanearabians.com/html. It seems that each is a different site? Thanks, Ed

  Originally posted by mred:

  What does Fetch do with deleted files? I do not see them in my trash? While I can get on line at hickorylanearabians.com/html, I can't get on our site at hickorylanearabians.com. I was trying to get us on line through arabhorse.com and I may have inadvertantly deleted a file that I should have not.

  Posted 16 years ago #

• Scott McGuire Administrator

  Hi,

  Files that you see listed in the Fetch file list are on the server (a different computer, that you are accessing via the Internet), not on your Macintosh. So when you delete them, they cannot be put in your Trash, because they are not on your computer.

  So unfortunately, deleting a file from the server usually means it is permanently gone. If you have a critical file that you cannot reproduce, you can talk to your hosting provider and see if they perhaps have a backup of your files, or if they can restore it in some other way.

  You can create the appearance of having two different "sites" on your website by uploading two different things to two different folders; if each folder has a complete website in it, typing the name of the folder after your hostname could display each "site." Typing the address www.hickorylanearabians.com would show the contents of one folder (your "root" folder on the server), and typing the address of www.hickorylanearabians.com/html would show the contents of a different folder (the "html" folder). That may explain why you saw two different things depending one what you typed.

  Some servers require that webpages go into a specially named folder such as "html"; some do not, and all you need to is put your webpages in the "root" folder (the root folder is usually the first one you see when you connect to your server in Fetch). You would need to check with your hosting provider and see which works best for your server.

  Thanks,

  Scott McGuire
  Fetch Softworks

  Posted 16 years ago #

• mred Member

  I have worked out all my bugs thanks to everyones help! Fetch is super now that I have figured it out!

  Originally posted by ScottMcGuire:

  Hi,

  Files that you see listed in the Fetch file list are on the server (a different computer, that you are accessing via the Internet), not on your Macintosh. So when you delete them, they cannot be put in your Trash, because they are not on your computer.

  So unfortunately, deleting a file from the server usually means it is permanently gone. If you have a critical file that you cannot reproduce, you can talk to your hosting provider and see if they perhaps have a backup of your files, or if they can restore it in some other way.

  You can create the appearance of having two different "sites" on your website by uploading two different things to two different folders; if each folder has a complete website in it, typing the name of the folder after your hostname could display each "site." Typing the address www.hickorylanearabians.com would show the contents of one folder (your "root" folder on the server), and typing the address of www.hickorylanearabians.com/html would show the contents of a different folder (the "html" folder). That may explain why you saw two different things depending one what you typed.

  Some servers require that webpages go into a specially named folder such as "html"; some do not, and all you need to is put your webpages in the "root" folder (the root folder is usually the first one you see when you connect to your server in Fetch). You would need to check with your hosting provider and see which works best for your server.

  Thanks,

  Scott McGuire
  Fetch Softworks

  Posted 16 years ago #

• Scott McGuire Administrator

  Hi,

  You're welcome, we're glad to hear it's all working now!

  Best,

  Scott McGuire
  Fetch Softworks

  Posted 16 years ago #